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		<title>Comment on Kabul from 30,000 feet (and a Bangkok downpour) by Ben Irwin</title>
		<link>http://benirwin.wordpress.com/2008/06/16/kabul-from-30000-feet-and-a-bangkok-downpour/#comment-185</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Irwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 09:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Work sent me. I was there for a conference, meaning we spent most of the time in a windowless hotel conference room. But they let us out occasionally. And the food there was incredible. Redefined my notion of "spicy" but still really, really good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Work sent me. I was there for a conference, meaning we spent most of the time in a windowless hotel conference room. But they let us out occasionally. And the food there was incredible. Redefined my notion of &#8220;spicy&#8221; but still really, really good.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Kabul from 30,000 feet (and a Bangkok downpour) by Sarah</title>
		<link>http://benirwin.wordpress.com/2008/06/16/kabul-from-30000-feet-and-a-bangkok-downpour/#comment-176</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! Why are you in Bangkok?</description>
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		<title>Comment on What England is supposed to look like by Sarah</title>
		<link>http://benirwin.wordpress.com/2008/05/16/now-this-is-what-england-is-supposed-to-look-like/#comment-164</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 19:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lovely. Cheerio.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Evangelicalism recovered by mikerucker</title>
		<link>http://benirwin.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/evangelicalism-recovered/#comment-163</link>
		<dc:creator>mikerucker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 07:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, i'm probably more jazzed by who &lt;i&gt;didn't&lt;/i&gt; sign it than who signed it ... serves as a good line of demarcation, if you will...

i'm enjoying reading the various opinions here and there around the web.  i had some hesitations and misgivings before reading the document, but i'm actually quite impressed and invigorated after taking in the whole of what it addresses.  

one of the things i like is that the authors have chosen &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; to list creationism and inerrancy as non-negotiables. for the first, there's very little biblical justification anymore behind whatever the latest flavor of anti-natural-selection dessert is being served up; for the latter, somehow we can admit that we can't prove the existence of God, but goshdarnit we have a golden egg this unprovable God laid right here.  still, some people hold to these positions; so be it.  there's simply too much of a tendency to add items to the ever-increasing laundry list of ideas and doctrines to which we have to pledge allegiance before we're allowed into the room marked "Christian."

nothing's going to please everybody, and there are a few things i object to.  for instance, i don't agree with this statement: &lt;i&gt;We Evangelicals should be defined theologically, and not politically, socially, or culturally.&lt;/i&gt;  Jesus' message uses "action" verbs: teach them to DO as I have commanded you, LOVE God and LOVE your neighbor, by this will all men know ... if you LOVE one another. any theology that defines us must have feet.

i did, however, like these words:  &lt;i&gt;We are also troubled by the fact that the advance of globalization and the emergence of a global public square finds no matching vision of how we are to live freely, justly, and peacefully with our deepest differences on the global stage.&lt;/i&gt;  somehow, we've got to figure out how we're going to peacefully share the same bathroom over the next few decades in our ever-shrinking world.

one interesting thing: maybe i missed it, but there doesn't seem to be a great emphasis on &lt;i&gt;evangelism&lt;/i&gt; in this &lt;i&gt;Evangelical&lt;/i&gt; Manifesto. do you think that was intentional? i didn't see a single chick tract referenced in the bibliography...

more than anything, i find myself motivated and energized by the very positive nature of the piece - that it isn't yet another "here's everything we're &lt;i&gt;against&lt;/i&gt;" rant but an effort to make the gospel again a message of &lt;i&gt;good news&lt;/i&gt;. imagine that - the gospel being &lt;i&gt;good news&lt;/i&gt;. American Christianity has lost this defining characteristic that once served it well.

perhaps one unintended benefit of the proposal is a clear opportunity to take this EM (Evangelical Manifesto) and align it with the other EM (&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&#38;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FEmergent-Manifesto-Hope-emersion-communities%2Fdp%2F080106807X%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dbooks%26qid%3D1210257943%26sr%3D8-2&#38;tag=mwc04-20&#38;linkCode=ur2&#38;camp=1789&#38;creative=9325" rel="nofollow"&gt;Emergent Manifesto&lt;/a&gt;) and finally have all our EM &#38; EMs in a row without demonizing the other side.

one can only hope...

mike rucker
fairburn, georgia, usa
&lt;a href="http://mikerucker.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;mikerucker.wordpress.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, i&#8217;m probably more jazzed by who <i>didn&#8217;t</i> sign it than who signed it &#8230; serves as a good line of demarcation, if you will&#8230;</p>
<p>i&#8217;m enjoying reading the various opinions here and there around the web.  i had some hesitations and misgivings before reading the document, but i&#8217;m actually quite impressed and invigorated after taking in the whole of what it addresses.  </p>
<p>one of the things i like is that the authors have chosen <i>not</i> to list creationism and inerrancy as non-negotiables. for the first, there&#8217;s very little biblical justification anymore behind whatever the latest flavor of anti-natural-selection dessert is being served up; for the latter, somehow we can admit that we can&#8217;t prove the existence of God, but goshdarnit we have a golden egg this unprovable God laid right here.  still, some people hold to these positions; so be it.  there&#8217;s simply too much of a tendency to add items to the ever-increasing laundry list of ideas and doctrines to which we have to pledge allegiance before we&#8217;re allowed into the room marked &#8220;Christian.&#8221;</p>
<p>nothing&#8217;s going to please everybody, and there are a few things i object to.  for instance, i don&#8217;t agree with this statement: <i>We Evangelicals should be defined theologically, and not politically, socially, or culturally.</i>  Jesus&#8217; message uses &#8220;action&#8221; verbs: teach them to DO as I have commanded you, LOVE God and LOVE your neighbor, by this will all men know &#8230; if you LOVE one another. any theology that defines us must have feet.</p>
<p>i did, however, like these words:  <i>We are also troubled by the fact that the advance of globalization and the emergence of a global public square finds no matching vision of how we are to live freely, justly, and peacefully with our deepest differences on the global stage.</i>  somehow, we&#8217;ve got to figure out how we&#8217;re going to peacefully share the same bathroom over the next few decades in our ever-shrinking world.</p>
<p>one interesting thing: maybe i missed it, but there doesn&#8217;t seem to be a great emphasis on <i>evangelism</i> in this <i>Evangelical</i> Manifesto. do you think that was intentional? i didn&#8217;t see a single chick tract referenced in the bibliography&#8230;</p>
<p>more than anything, i find myself motivated and energized by the very positive nature of the piece - that it isn&#8217;t yet another &#8220;here&#8217;s everything we&#8217;re <i>against</i>&#8221; rant but an effort to make the gospel again a message of <i>good news</i>. imagine that - the gospel being <i>good news</i>. American Christianity has lost this defining characteristic that once served it well.</p>
<p>perhaps one unintended benefit of the proposal is a clear opportunity to take this EM (Evangelical Manifesto) and align it with the other EM (<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&amp;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FEmergent-Manifesto-Hope-emersion-communities%2Fdp%2F080106807X%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dbooks%26qid%3D1210257943%26sr%3D8-2&amp;tag=mwc04-20&amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325" rel="nofollow">Emergent Manifesto</a>) and finally have all our EM &amp; EMs in a row without demonizing the other side.</p>
<p>one can only hope&#8230;</p>
<p>mike rucker<br />
fairburn, georgia, usa<br />
<a href="http://mikerucker.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">mikerucker.wordpress.com</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Evangelicalism recovered by cameron conant</title>
		<link>http://benirwin.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/evangelicalism-recovered/#comment-162</link>
		<dc:creator>cameron conant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 22:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dude, did you see that jim wallis mentioned me on the sojo blog recently? okay, he linked to my blog, he didn't mention my name, but still...it was cool. i know your head is spinning---you only knew me as a strident conservative and i'm now an independent who is planning to vote for obama. 

hope all is well in your corner of the world. 

cameron</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dude, did you see that jim wallis mentioned me on the sojo blog recently? okay, he linked to my blog, he didn&#8217;t mention my name, but still&#8230;it was cool. i know your head is spinning&#8212;you only knew me as a strident conservative and i&#8217;m now an independent who is planning to vote for obama. </p>
<p>hope all is well in your corner of the world. </p>
<p>cameron</p>
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		<title>Comment on Evangelicalism recovered by Evangelical Manifesto &#171; Third Watch</title>
		<link>http://benirwin.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/evangelicalism-recovered/#comment-161</link>
		<dc:creator>Evangelical Manifesto &#171; Third Watch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 03:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Click Here - the first perspective is from the long lost blogger, Ben Irwin, who ran off to England and forgot about his stateside rabble. [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on I didn&#8217;t do it. by sTim</title>
		<link>http://benirwin.wordpress.com/2008/04/20/i-didnt-do-it/#comment-160</link>
		<dc:creator>sTim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 13:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although poop stories do have a way of following you around. There was the basement thing in GR, the whole "history of Seattle" thing out there, and now this... I'm starting to get suspicious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although poop stories do have a way of following you around. There was the basement thing in GR, the whole &#8220;history of Seattle&#8221; thing out there, and now this&#8230; I&#8217;m starting to get suspicious.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Boxes, boxes, and more . . . snow by Ben Irwin</title>
		<link>http://benirwin.wordpress.com/2008/04/07/boxes-boxes-and-more-snow/#comment-159</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Irwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, but there's this little thing called the Gulf Stream that's supposed to keep England generally snow-free, especially in April! (Must be slacking on the job this year...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but there&#8217;s this little thing called the Gulf Stream that&#8217;s supposed to keep England generally snow-free, especially in April! (Must be slacking on the job this year&#8230 <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>Comment on Boxes, boxes, and more . . . snow by David</title>
		<link>http://benirwin.wordpress.com/2008/04/07/boxes-boxes-and-more-snow/#comment-158</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 13:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is that your Boston Terrier?  Leesa and I have two of them!  They just went camping with us this weekend here in Texas:  http://flickr.com/photos/leesaanddavid

And the snow - I think that's bcuz London is on the same latitude as southern Greenland.  Don't you remember any of your homeschooler geography?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that your Boston Terrier?  Leesa and I have two of them!  They just went camping with us this weekend here in Texas:  <a href="http://flickr.com/photos/leesaanddavid" rel="nofollow">http://flickr.com/photos/leesaanddavid</a></p>
<p>And the snow - I think that&#8217;s bcuz London is on the same latitude as southern Greenland.  Don&#8217;t you remember any of your homeschooler geography?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Easter Sunday in the UK by Sarah</title>
		<link>http://benirwin.wordpress.com/2008/03/29/easter-sunday-in-the-uk/#comment-152</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 13:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm jealous.</description>
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